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 Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   04-07-08 10:06

Sumfest: Red Stripe is officially announcing it WILL no longer sponsor any live music events, not just Sumfest.

Red Stripe's decision means the withdrawal of thousands of dollars in sponsorship from Sumfest.

The company had also been sponsoring a Boxing Day music event, Sting.

Red Stripe cited what it called a worrying and negative trend of glorifying violence at the music events.

Red Stripe said the violence laden music, as it called it, had far-reaching and damaging implications for the industry and for Jamaica as a whole.

Red Stripe corporate relations director Maxine Wittingham-Osborne told Radio Jamaica that the move came despite efforts by the company and other corporate sponsors to maintain globally acceptable standards.

"We have noticed that there is a negative trend that has been creeping into some of the music, and it's a trend of glorifying violence. This is very damaging to our culture, the music and to our country as a whole and we at Red Stripe have tried to help the promoters and the artistes to raise the standard of the music. We attempted this through the Coalition of Corporate Sponsors. While we have had some measure of success through the Coalition, we believe it has not gone far enough to inspire change and so we think that the time is right for us to actually take a stand in the interest of our country and people," Radio Jamaica's site reported Wittingham-Osborne said.

Summerfest Productions chairman Robert Russell said he was disappointed with Red Stripe's decision but added that the show would go on. He also thanked Red Stripe for its six years of sponsorship.

Russell told RJR that Red Stripe's parent company "has from time to time been upset with utterances both violent and homophobic (in nature) from our Jamaican artistes. We at Sumfest do not condone any violence against any sector at all and you can understand from a corporate position that they feel that their brand and image could be compromised by some of the utterances."

Red Stripe is now owned by British food and drink company Diageo, which bought it about a decade ago from Jamaica's Desnoes and Geddes -- meaning it can now be considered, depending on your interpretation, a UK company rather than a Jamaican firm, even though we think of Stripe being one of the ultimate symbols of Jamaican entrepreneurship.

Buju Banton -- one of several Jamaican musicians who have been criticized abroad for their anti-gay lyrics -- is scheduled to sing at Sumfest this year.

What will Red Stripe do with all the marketing dollars it is saving?

The Jamaica Star quotes Whittingham-Osborne as saying that "we will be launching in the very near future a promotional activity that will be linked to the national football program."

Red Stripe also said it might return to music promotion in the future.

"It is our hope that our action will cause the proponents of this destructive trend in local music to stop and take stock of the negative impact of their actions on the society and seek to make a change," Whittingham-Osborne said. "Red Stripe looks forward to the time when good sense will prevail and we can see a return to improved quality and standard of music that all Jamaica can be proud of. At that time we will review our position."

Sting promoter Isaiah Laing wouldn't comment on the move. "I am not ready to respond," he told the Star.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: I&I See You (---.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com)
Date:   04-07-08 10:11

An alcohol distributor taking a stand against violence. That'll show 'em.

"Hello pot. My name is kettle."



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Rastaman_Vibration (168.230.48.---)
Date:   04-07-08 10:14

Wait, .... are you telling me that a corporation is turning away from the almighty dollar because of principle? Is that what your trying to tell me? Really?

Oh, I get it now -- hahahahahahaha -- it's a little late for April Fool's, but good one anyway.

Peace,
-RV

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   04-07-08 10:25

Red Stripe pulls out of Sumfest
No longer title sponsor
Yasmine Peru, Entertainment editor peruy@jamaicaobserver.com
Friday, April 04, 2008

Liquor giant, Red Stripe, has relinquished its title sponsorship of Reggae Sumfest.

Although the company is yet to send out an official statement on the matter, a company executive confirmed to Splash that Red Stripe "will not be the title sponsor for Sumfest this year".
"We will, however, be sending out an official statement soon," the Red Stripe official stated.

In the run-up to the annual week-long festival, concerns have been expressed that Red Stripe was on the verge of pulling out of the calendar event, owing to what has been described as the "state of the music" as it relates to an over-abundance of violent lyrics by some dancehall artistes and the militant stance taken by these artistes against homosexuals.

The company executive, however, refused to comment on whether or not this had in any way impacted on Red Stripe's ultimate decision.

It is still unclear whether or not the beer company will be involved at any level with the staging of the premium reggae/dancehall festival, which is celebrating 16 years this year.

Other reports surfacing are that Red Stripe was the official sponsor of the bar at the Africa Unite concert held at the James Bond Beach in February, but the brand had refused any kind of acknowledgement for their sponsorship.

Branded as 'the coolest beer company', Red Stripe has been the the title sponsor of Reggae Sumfest since 2005, branding the event 'Red Stripe Reggae Sumfest'. This partnership has been described as a "marriage made at the bar counter".

Meanwhile, executive director of Summerfest Productions, Johnny Gourzong, up to press time, could not be reached for a comment.

Over the years, many of reggae/dancehall, r&b and rap's top artistes have appeared on the Sumfest stage. These include Beres Hammond, Shaggy, Morgan Heritage, 50 Cent, LL Cool J, Mary J Blige, Beenie Man, Collie Budz, Alliosn Hinds and Etana.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: m i c h a e l (---.ipt.aol.com)
Date:   04-07-08 11:24

I wish somebody at either of these two newspapers had dug into the subject to the extent of telling us how much sponsorship money this means.

As with the Buju/Penthouse article in the JA Observer, I feel as though I'm reading press releases, not the products of real journalism.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: I&I See You (---.stkn.mdsg-pacwest.com)
Date:   04-07-08 11:33

More:

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/lifestyle/html/20080406T200000-0500_134272_OBS_LONG_LIVE_REGGAE_DANCEHALL.asp



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: RasSmoka (---.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com)
Date:   04-07-08 11:48

Did Diageo buy Red Stripe from Desnoes and Geddes, or did they purchase the company and it's trademarks? Because thier name is mos def still on the bottle, unless these are over a decade old....YUCK!!!!!!!

~IRIE VIBES EVERYTIME~

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Stamina! (69.107.66.---)
Date:   04-07-08 12:13

Not really. They bought the Desnoes & Geddes Company, along with all its identifiers and trademarks. Just because General Motors bought Chevrolet doesn't mean the Chevy logo is history...

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: RasSmoka (97.93.64.---)
Date:   04-07-08 12:17

That's why I asked the? The statement above claims they bought "Red Stripe" from D&G, and I inquired if that was true, or if they had in fact purchased the company and it's trademarks. What do u mean by not really?

~IRIE VIBES EVERYTIME~

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-07-08 15:13

>this seems to be more of a national choice because they are still sponcering shows in the usa. which meks it more obvious this is not a jamaican company anymore, it has divsions.
>i do not support commercial beer slogans for any reggae party. it has a fowl contradiction vs. the conscious message the performers may be trying to get across the crowd and when there is suds being spilled all over the place it gets pretty sloppy fast even on a full stomach for the family vibes.
>the phoenix fest is getting backed by red stripe rite now as iNi speak and i lost a few friends in area by saying it should be set from community rather than letting these turkeys come in off bat and gobble up the crowd.
>i 2sense worth. . .
peace^

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   04-07-08 15:49

Sorry smoka, apparently the article's incorrect. I went to Diageo's site & their history page sez Guinness purchased D&G in 1993, then Diageo bought Guinness.

Jahmeek good luck with trying to find non-corporate sponsors for a reggae show in Phoenix that will cover the costs on anything close to what the corp. sponsors can handle. Would you rather have no reggae show at all? Those are the decisions folks like Warren have to make every day.



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: RasSmoka (---.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com)
Date:   04-07-08 21:18

No sweat Herb. Where's all the rich eccentric reggae fans with deep rooted love for roots, and deep rooted pockets to make it happen?

~IRIE VIBES EVERYTIME~

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: papa ray (66.190.143.---)
Date:   04-08-08 06:34

Chris Blackwell??

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-08-08 16:37

>i hear ya stam but there is always alternatives when minds work together for a common cause. jah knows it takes mega bucks to get a festival going in these parts of the desert bubble.
>i think red stripe and it's media partner are trying to give reggae a bad name.
as if were suppose to beleive that iNi need beer and all it's negatives to support a reggae event, rite. gwan i seh support fotball like stated and wank out the fans there untill it gets way out of hand like football games here in usa have gotten for example.
>this love and hate relationship was doomed from the start.
>i for one could go with-out there crumy red stripe cd samplers they hand out to dem distrbuters as if once again beer is suppose to be a part of reggae, ha ha.
smoke it!
>now is the time to bann dem sponcers back like budweiser who pour ma$$ive money into jailing people for having a little herb.
>let red stripe know that there beer in most cases is the semi-root of any violence they want to gwan and mention that be true.
>i have had plenty of show experiences ruined by a pastic cup bonanza in more ways than one and would be more than happy 2c people bring their own not for sale and clean up there own mess for most part.
>i know it is a long shoot with the pro-drug stance n'all still in play but it is something that should mek everyones thoughts if they want to grow a movement or degrade it during crucial times.
peace^

-RASpects+

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-23-08 17:31

Time for DanceHall Music to Drop Red Stripe!

By The Way Guiness is owned by the same company



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   04-23-08 17:48

Wha? Red Stripe stop sponsor reggae caw too much voilence agwaan? Dem wan a bokkle fling boof upside fi dem headtop...oh, wait...

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-23-08 18:27

Jah Meek is Right, beer and liquor sponsorship is pretty absurd.
Personal Consumption is one thing, sponsorship is another. Any, type of corporate sponsorship is hypocritical.



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   04-23-08 19:41

Jah Meek is Right, beer and liquor sponsorship is pretty absurd.
Personal Consumption is one thing, sponsorship is another. Any, type of corporate sponsorship is hypocritical.
........................................................................................

I have no clue what the hell your talking about. You guys are nuts.

And didnt Sierra Nevade Brewing Company once sponsor this festival in the early days? Wheres the hypocracy, I dont get it, sorry.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-23-08 20:53

youre right. they should open up sponsorship to ALL the corporations.
Maybe they can get GMC to sponsor some shows COCA COLA. ya that would be hype! A&T&T Reggae fest sounds good to me!


gimme a break!



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-23-08 20:59

Original RuffNeck Sol Jah wrote:

> youre right. they should open up sponsorship to ALL the
> corporations.
> Maybe they can get GMC to sponsor some shows COCA COLA. ya
> that would be hype! A&T&T Reggae fest sounds good to me!
>
>
> gimme a break!
>

Actually, Jamaica's AT&T counterpart Cable and Wireless DOES sponsor a lot of the shows down there..

Really, it's not all that hypocritical. Maybe it is for the artists who "burn babylon," but then again, so is flying on planes, using US money and paying US taxes, etc... However, most artists, and almost all promoters aren't anti-corporate by any means. So I would hardly call it hypocritical to be sponsored by corportations or beer companies. Now, if someone who believes it's wrong to drink alcohol threw a fest sponsored by Red Stripe, that would be a different story. But if I were a gambling man, I'd bet that not only do the promoters enjoy a bottle of red stripe, but a majority of the artists on the bill do as well. Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-23-08 21:02

just because it is a common practice doesnt make it alright James. And as people who spend good money on shows, recorded music, etc. we DO have a voice in this.



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   04-24-08 08:58

Well, as soon as I see Jr. Reid, Don Carlos, IV, all the 'bun babylon' artists, etc. stop playing venues where alcohol is served, I'll see the point of banning sponsorship by manufacturers of alcoholic beverages. Til then, I don't see where corporate beverage sponsorship of reggae shows is any more hypocritical than the artists continuing to play these venues, which host the vast majority of reggae shows, in the USA anyhow. Would you rather that money were spent on heavy metal & gangster rap? Or maybe the Republican Party? You've been around long enuf to know that people get gradually enlightened to the message of reggae; it doesn't happen all at once.
Sheesh, if I told you which 'ital roots & culture" artists couldn't do a show without their Hennessy or white rum, some of y'all might $#!+ your pants...oh, that's right, it's just 'medicine' for their voice...keep believing that...

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-24-08 09:09

alcoholism is a worldwide problem. So is coroprate irresponsiblilty!

Here in Nor Cal there are MORE than enough microbrews that would like the chance to sponsor shows.

I just think its time for promoters to be more discriminating and research some of their sponsors.

coca cola isnt alcohol yet the company has questionable practices, and violates Human rights in many countries.

Just cause some, or the majority of artists and musicians drink coca cola doesnt mean it should be a sponsor.

The issue is, we as a community continuing to support these corporations.
Plenty of Green businesses these days, why not support them?



Post Edited (04-24-08 09:14)

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-24-08 09:47

If those companies were going to sponsor shows, nothing is stopping them. The reason big companies sponsor shows is because they have the money....

Stamina makes a very strong point. Most shows are in bars. Is that not a big hypocracy too? That's not even a sponsor giving money to a third party, that's artists getting direct money from the alcohol industry. But I can't imagine many people are going to stop attending shows at bars, as most people aren't gonna stop drinking. Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Rastaman_Vibration (168.230.48.---)
Date:   04-24-08 10:20

Ras James says:

"If those companies were going to sponsor shows, nothing is stopping them. The reason big companies sponsor shows is because they have the money...."

Not exactly, James. I would say that the reason big companies sponsor shows is because they want to achieve (or maintain) penetration into specific market segments that they have identified -- usually young people. Ultimately, they are on a continuous quest for the money in your pocket and mine. The goal is increasing profit, by any means necessary -- which creates situations where hypocrisy abounds.

It's the same reason why large corporations contribute to political candidates on both sides -- Dems and Reps. Check it out.

I don't blame Rastafarian artistes for playing bars and venues where alcohol is sold -- the must play where they can to earn their ducats. Bars are places where people gather to socialize over their favorite beverage and, for a lot of people that go to bars to socialize, that favorite beverage is an alcoholic one. I do not know of any venues, with the possibility of the WBC, that does not serve alcohol. There are not very many successful tea rooms or under-21 social clubs available for ital acts.

I personally enjoy the look that a bartender throws me when I order a cranberry juice.

Peace,
-RV

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: HiGrade1 (---.static.twtelecom.net)
Date:   04-24-08 10:32

RV- that sounds like the guy in Hot Fuzz.......

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-24-08 11:01

Rastaman_Vibration wrote:

> Not exactly, James. I would say that the reason big companies
> sponsor shows is because they want to achieve (or maintain)
> penetration into specific market segments that they have
> identified -- usually young people. Ultimately, they are on a
> continuous quest for the money in your pocket and mine. The
> goal is increasing profit, by any means necessary -- which
> creates situations where hypocrisy abounds.

That is correct. I should clarify though, what I meant is the companies that are sponsoring events have the money to sponsor. Most mom-and-pop microbreweries forinstance don't have the funds to sponsor big festivals, even if they wanted to.

> I don't blame Rastafarian artistes for playing bars and venues
> where alcohol is sold -- the must play where they can to earn
> their ducats. Bars are places where people gather to socialize
> over their favorite beverage and, for a lot of people that go
> to bars to socialize, that favorite beverage is an alcoholic
> one. I do not know of any venues, with the possibility of the
> WBC, that does not serve alcohol. There are not very many
> successful tea rooms or under-21 social clubs available for
> ital acts.

I don't blame artists either. In all actuality, as I mentioned earlier, most artists, even the rasta artists, drink alcohol. Most rastas I've delt with drink some alcohol, be it the guys who can't go on stage without their hennessy or rum, the guys who enjoy a bottle of red stripe now and then, or the guys who have to have their baba roots. The only time I see them as being hypocrites in that regard would be if they were singing about the evils of alcohol on stage and then drinking it afterwords, which usually isn't the case. Unfortunently for those of who don't drink at all, the majority of the reggae business and the bar atmosphere creates some contradictions, but in the end, as you say, people have to make thier money somehow, and I feel working at a show at a bar is still a more honest way of making a living than lots of other possible ways. Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-24-08 11:29

"That is correct. I should clarify though, what I meant is the companies that are sponsoring events have the money to sponsor. Most mom-and-pop microbreweries forinstance don't have the funds to sponsor big festivals, even if they wanted to."

Maybe 1 microbrewery doesnt have the funds a corporation does. several microbreweries may.

Even a big corporation that has a better track record than most would be an improvement over a lot of the current sponsors.

There is also plenty of hypocrisy in having a sponsor that supports anti cannabis causes as Jah Meek mentioned.

The majority of artists (ganja smokers or not) do NOT support the persecution of a plant and those who use it.



Post Edited (04-24-08 13:43)

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-24-08 14:57

>big it up sol jah!
>the company list would amaze you and there files are a leading trail.
>snapple for example has a bad rep for supporting anti-cannibis laws and was invited on repeated dates to support reggae on the river. there is one example we could exploite.
>2nd issue i would like to commit on is ras james stance on artists behind the scenes saying one ting pon stage and going in back and showing total differnt message.
i would like to use his buddy junoir reid who i have personaly witnessed his voice on stage quotes going against the industry then going off stage and drinking beer and smoking marbe reds all brands after he just made a speech of how bad these things are just minutes ago.
>i could go on and knock down more artists that i have personaly witnessed saying 1 ting and doing a differnt but my focuss here is on sponcerships not the people who ride both sides of the plank.
peace^

-RASpects+

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-24-08 15:08

Jahmeek wrote
"2nd issue i would like to commit on is ras james stance on artists behind the scenes saying one ting pon stage and going in back and showing total differnt message."

Read my post Jahmeek. I said that most artists aren't going up on stage and talking about the alcohol thing. Most artists just avoid the subject. I didn't say alcohol or anything like that is good, nor is hypocracy good.

As for Mr. Reid, I've never heard him even mention alcohol on stage, and what he may or may not drink off stage is his own business. Wonder why you choose to watch man so much?

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-24-08 15:18

>i dont choose to watch the mon ras.
i opened up for him at a local show as a dj about 5 years ago and he repersented himself. nore was i behind him taking notes, it was a true experience for the peeps that matched reports from friends at other shows during tour.
>from what i know he is into the the bobo movement so that sort of distorts his message and because of the i's i*nection with him i thought i would plug an easy veiwpoint for your pro drinking stance...
>not to offend your opinion, its just an prime example to grow from.

-RASpects+

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-24-08 15:40

Jahmeek wrote:

> because of the i's i*nection with
> him i thought i would plug an easy veiwpoint for your pro
> drinking stance...
> >not to offend your opinion, its just an prime example to grow
> from.
>

To assume I am "pro drinking" is way off base. I don't drink, nor do I really approve of drinking, and if anyone ever sees me drinking anything with alcohol, feel free to smack me around. However, I'm not gonna dictate the behavior of a grown man, or run my mouth on a public form about what I've seen specific people do if it doesn't involve me. The fact that you even care that someone who you don't know is doing something that doesn't effect you at all is kind of sad. Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-25-08 19:42

>grown man talk?
>your a funny kidd as i watch you clot up the board left and right but when someone goes direct with you. u gwan defensive towards thinking about it, huh.
>phorum-izms are for public use and set the standerd for mondern communication, so maybe when daniel gets tired of having to deal with true spam on a 24/7 basis you will offer to take his job and runner up your little billy voice, peggybacking the coming of age your dealing with now...
>peace^

-RASpects+

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   04-26-08 08:51

Jahmeek that's some ****ing age-ism. imho James shows more common sense and 'maturity' than...let's just say a whole heap o' folk. I wouldn't think you'd want to consider yourself racist, sexist, age-ist or anything else. Stop your passive/aggressive 'gladness' and let your works speak for themselves.

RV you said >>I don't blame Rastafarian artistes for playing bars and venues where alcohol is sold -- the must play where they can to earn their ducats.<<

So when reggae artists seek employment where they are subsidized by alcohol peddlers, they're just doing what they have to, but when the people who promote reggae seek the same financial support for their festivals or events to survive, you demonize them? Why do you give the singers & musicians a free pass, and slam the festival organizers who want to be able to give the music a fair shake, when they're both doing essentially the same thing ?

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Chimino (---.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net)
Date:   04-26-08 13:57

You guys are funny. Beer, especially Red Stripe, is as much a part of Jamaican culture as ganja...probably moreso. But they, the moralizing on this board never ceases...

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-26-08 15:04

Meek,
I've said my part. If you want to watch man and gossip about man, that's your perogative.

Chimino wrote:

>Beer, especially Red Stripe, is as much a
> part of Jamaican culture as ganja...probably moreso. But they,
> the moralizing on this board never ceases...

exactly, love it or hate it, Red Stripe is part of Jamaican culture, and there is no hypocracy in having red stripe sponsor a reggae show... Now if the Mormon Tabernacle choir did a show sponsored by red stripe, that would be hypocritical. I think the issue here is anti-corporate sentiment, which is also not so big an issue in JA (interestingly enough, plenty of Jamaicans who either live stateside or travel here LOVE Wal Mart, a regular target of anti-corporate sentiments on this board). Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Chimino (---.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net)
Date:   04-26-08 16:37

"interestingly enough, plenty of Jamaicans who either live stateside or travel here LOVE Wal Mart, a regular target of anti-corporate sentiments on this board:"

Funny you mention that...I dislike WAl-Mart also, but my (West Indian) wife loves it. And when we go there, we see Guatemalans, Dominicans, Middle-Easterners, Japanese, and a multitude of other nationalities you wouldn't see as much of anywhere else in this part of Ohio.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-26-08 17:46

>once again if a man trys to speak for an honest oberservation that in somehow is being negative or some sort of hate breeding, ect... i dont get that point unless someone goes around as a stranger or uses false names to protect his i.d. . . .
>when the truth is & if i was to somehow riddle these facts in some lyric sheet and slap it over a riddim, then somehow this sort of idea could be sold or even in some case's glamerized.

>dear stamina to go straight with your question i would assure ya that i am not trying to demonize peddlers at festivals while leaving dive bar performers get left behind.
i assure u i hold the same value for local shows and such when the message is being mixxed with an obvious commercial objective.
there is a very fine line here in liberty. with-out going into a 10 page article i would commit on fact that i dont see a problem with venders selling dumb-drinks or smart drinks either way as adults. when after all Haile Selassie I would have a few sips off a glass of wine here & there at some gatherings, so please dont take it personal as a beer drinker or whatever your looking at.
im suggesting the advertising claw here is way wicked and has the upper hand so why dont iNi give a good effert as a community to balance that when it is truley needed probley more now than ever. for example if you want to have a hemp education stand at your event some of these same sponcers would pull out even though the artists on stage may be expressing their veiw points aloud on stage such as what happened to the h.o.r.d.e. that blues traveler and others were working on in past years.
another differnt example i would like to use is when i was at summer fest in milwaukee that is pretty much the grand daddy of beer sponcered music festivals, i watched boom shaka rock the crowd positive untill lester far i stepped up to the mic about 3/4 into the set and say sum true facts about ganja and its discrimination right front on the 'miller' stage. it went" you drink beer so we can smoke(and so on)" and crowd cheered even louder(i think u get the picture). shortley after that the police sweeped the crowd and started arresting people and i could see some of the miller crew going sour with the attitude, well your never going to be invited here again. yes they were never invited back to milwaukee ever since but i*tinued to capture the madison/mad town fans with no problems(culture shock). so you see these sort of pass-overs of letting the goat eat all the grass stances and do nothing about it is not just effecting positive reggae in general it is also funded from the sales it recieves from letting them advertise over your head.
also by the way ive known ras james through the internet since he was just a likkle school bowy so dont get 2excited about iNi getting personal about two people knowing each-other, thanks.

>chimino says red stripe is just as much part of reggae as ganja. wow that is pretty wacked. how are you going to prove that by posting pics of people with dreadlocks getting drunk? that idea meks swiss cheese look vegan, bro. . .

>now going back on ras james love n' hate drive through: look i have probley more friends that i would trust that drink in my life expereince than 1'z who dont ever touch the juice. im not on some pride or prejudice trip here so go have a shot if u need 1 thats not the problem. the problem is what i think red stripe is doing by labeling reggae as this or that when it is none of the sort and is just an idea created by them and other mishaps. my issue is not even about sum-set or any other festival unless i plan on attending so lets keep the focus in the same field here. if red stripe or any other blasted company want to not work with someone thats is there choice and vice versa but to gwan and print public statements aimed towards popular media outlets that quote reggae as being violent is way off target and mocks the culture and all its years of hard work. that is the measure that iz being thrown at iNi now & puts the ball in our court after all this forsaken time and gives a clear chance for iNi to create something better now after all due to circumstances that have been paved. as warrior king would say " a breath of fresh air". now it is the time to plant seeds and continue to vamp this bad harvest of undergrowth that only can be blamed on our selves, just how babywrong would like it or step it up for real. beginning in that process needs to be forward communication, without that liberty were all doomed so keep message boards alive and post what your really thinking and nah worry about maybe someone will try to recycle or trash your soul, thats just life. . .
peace^

-RASpects+

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Author: Chimino (---.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net)
Date:   04-26-08 19:48

lol...only read the part with my name in it, but lol. You obviously haven't been to the Caribbean.

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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-26-08 19:58

"You guys are funny. Beer, especially Red Stripe, is as much a part of Jamaican culture as ganja...probably moreso. But they, the moralizing on this board never ceases..."

pointe taken Chimino.

Still gunz r a part of Caribe Culture. Dont mean that I'd like to see weapons manufacturers sponsor shows....

OT - I Am enjoying the DHR forum this place needs a "Grown Folks Lounge"

Fi Real!



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Author: Chimino (---.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net)
Date:   04-27-08 04:12

Hah, I hear you....main difference most adults can enjoy alcohol in moderation just like any other substance, wheras guns are made to kill & maim and not much else.
Glad you're enjoying DHR & not intimidated by it.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-28-08 16:58

>chimino some sort milk is also a part of almost every culture aswell but that doesnt mean iNi have to take a sponcers word for it. . .



-RASpects+

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Date:   04-28-08 17:00





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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-28-08 17:03

if any1 can find it please post the LEE SCRATCH Guiness commercial
that ish is HIGHLARIOUS!

"Dubbing in Dublin!"



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Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   04-28-08 17:43

Funny how y'all can make a simple and fairly benign (if you're responsible) beverage and make it a symbol of personal and corporate evil. I wonder if the dreader-than-thous here know that beer was invented in Africa?


>>Some 5,000 years ago in the Imperial Egypt of the Pharaohs, beer was already an important food item in the daily diet. It was made from lightly baked barley bread, and also was used as a sacrament.

People gathered in the evening to drink at a 'house of beer'. Beer was the natural drink of the country, a basic in the diet of the nobility and of the fellah (the peasant). As well as being a drink, beer was also used as medicine. A medical document which was written in about 1,600 BC lists about 700 prescriptions of which about 100 contained the word 'beer'.

The Egyptians also provided their dead with food and beer. An old Egyptian tomb bears the inscription: "....satisfy his spirit with beef and fowl, bread and beer". In the taverns or houses of beer in Egypt, the favourite toast was "Here's to your ghost".

Beer also had status - a keg of beer was considered the only proper gift to be offered to the Pharaoh by a suitor seeking the hand of a royal princess. 30,000 gallons a year was also offered as a fitting gift to the Gods by Pharaoh Rameses II (1,200 BC). It is recorded that a similar amount was also offered to appease the gods when they became angry.

Isis, the nature goddess, was Egypt's patroness of beer brewing and an important civic official was charged with the task of maintaining the quality of beer, an integral part of everyday life and religion.

Other references to beer from Egyptian times include mention of beer brewed from barley in the Egyptian's Book of the Dead, and many ancient Egyptian wall hangings also depict the brewing of beer.<<


and....
>>3,000 year old beer mugs were uncovered in Israel in the 1960s. Archaeologists said that their find at Tel Isdar indicated that beer drinking in Israel went back to the days of King Saul and King David. An Assyrian tablet of 2,000 BC lists beer among the foods that Noah used to provision the ark.<<



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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-28-08 17:52

There is a world of difference between "dreader than thou" and raising serious issues that affect us all.

I drink @ thymes. any1 from this board going to "Pam The Funkstress" in Sebastopol tonite hit me up and I will buy ya a drink as long as its not "red stripe" or "guiness" ha!

guiness is actually schwagg, there are a million stouts that r betta!



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Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-28-08 18:05

>i know what beer is and it has its place in every tender but red stripe was a jamaican beer & not anymore really, it was sold so this nah need apply to them just because they keep same label and air the worst commercials ever.
>harley riders hated their japan parted bikes but still advertised them and who cares about that part really after time has gone by. but when they make public statements like reggae is violent they almost need to mek a public apoligy for real, that chit is messed up and people are buying it still, wow talk about the blind leading the blind.
>
double fisting it are we?

-RASpects+

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Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net)
Date:   04-29-08 02:21

LOL!! A wha kine puppyshow dis!
Yardie dem prouda fi dem Redstripe! Who wan fight it dung can galang move unu bl******t & gweh!

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Author: papa ray (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date:   04-29-08 08:03

I love Red Stripe commercials. And I don't even drink beer.

You know what else I love? Going around in JA and seeing the 'Dragon Stout' logo
at groceries and little rum shops.

Stam, do we get to hang out this year??

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Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   04-29-08 09:25

I hope so, papa...check your email...
I used to love Dragon Stout (slogan: "Dragon puts it back!") in JA til one night when I had 5 or 6 of them...then *I* was the one who put it back...haven't had any since then...I also used to drink 'milk stout' with Mackeson (called "t'ree man" by the locals from the three-man logo on the bottle) with milk and veggie patties for Sunday breakfast. However, not being a hard liquor drinker, I never did partake of the "Rockfort workingman's lunch" consisting of equal parts of Nutrament and white rum favored by the cement plant workers where I was living in E. Kingston...

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Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   04-29-08 10:03

Shameless:



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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-29-08 10:13

Rhythmwize, where was that photo taken? Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   04-29-08 10:26

Castries, St. Lucia

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Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-29-08 17:03

>i heard that guiness brewing barrels are lined with some sort of lard?
>if that is true it really puts half the irish drinking rastas shame to a whole new level.
>i am still to get the facts on this 1?

-RASpects+

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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-29-08 17:43

any1 know is this Zoki's cat or Zerby's cat!?

I cant tell them apart anymore, the vocoder makes them all sound alike!





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Author: papa ray (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date:   04-29-08 17:54

jahmeek, jahmeek---are you trying your best to put Rasta men off their stout??

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Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   04-29-08 17:56

>no just the sponcer papa, i stick to the mission. . .but thanks for asking!

-RASpects+

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-30-08 19:08

Just read this on the DHR forum:


In a bold move of their own, some deejays are placing a ban on Red Stripe, which earlier this month announced they would no longer sponsor live music events facilitating "violent and antisocial lyrics".
In justifying their actions, artistes say one good turn deserves another, and their ban whether personal or otherwise, is simply an equal reaction.
One such artiste, Mavado, held nothing back telling The STAR, "If dem ban we, we jus' ban dem back bredren! Simple.
"I feel like if dem a pull out from we, we suppose to pull out from dem. Dat mean sey we weh a go dancehall an' a go party, we no fe drink no Red Stripe den. An nutten whe dem mek. Simple."
Similarly, female deejay Spice says a ban on Red Stripe would only be a fair response.
"I don't think dancehall should have nothing to do with Red Stripe either. If they should withdraw from dancehall, I think dancehall should withdraw from them and call it quits," she told The STAR.
On April 4, Red Stripe issued a statement saying its main sponsorship beneficiaries, the annual Reggae Summerfest and Sting stage shows, will no longer have its support.
"Over the years, however, a very negative trend of glorifying violence has crept into some of the music, causing much consternation among well-thinking Jamaicans and others at home and abroad. This has far-reaching and damaging implications for the industry and for the country as a whole," the release stated.
In arguing that dancehall is responsible for the popularity of Red Stripe, Mavado continued, "When yu have Sumfes' an Sting, an all a dese tings, people no come fi see Red Stripe. A Mavado an' Killer an artis' dem people come fe see. A we mek dis produc' so big y'nuh ... none a dem products no sell nowhere else like how it sell a Jamaica."

Disapproval
Recently, during a performance at Word Soun's at Liberty Hall, King Street, Kingston, poet and broadcaster Mutabaruka also showed his disapproval of Red Stripe's recent decision.
"We realise is not really violence dem agains', is homophobia," Mutabaruka said. "Because violence was in de music long time ... Is true de gay guys pull out dem a pull out too. We sey dem is very hypocritical."
When contacted, Red Stripe's head of corporate relations, Maxine Whittingham-Osborne, told The STAR that the company is disappointed but will remain firm in the stance.
"That is sad to hear, but if that is the case, we are disappointed, but we will be standing by our decision," she said.
"To retaliate is not our modus operandi," said Wittingham-Osborne, before noting that Red Stripe would, however, be looking into the situation. "We will certainly be looking to see what initiatives could be implemented. We are not against the music industry," she declared.

Response
In response to the claims of Mutabaruka, Wittinghman-Osborne said, "We are standing by the statement that we have made."
The April 4 release had said: "...Consequently, Red Stripe will not renew our contract for title sponsorship of Reggae Sumfest and Sting. We will, however, ensure that our brands are made available whenever and wherever our loyal consumers enjoy premium alcohol beverages."
In a subsequent interview, Whittingham-Osborne said the withdrawal is in tandem with the company's corporate strategies and values. "The key thing is the fact that Jamaica has been labelled as the murder capital of the world and we need to take stock of all the things that we are doing to contribute to it," she said. "The glorification of violence in the music is not helping our situation."



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Author: papa ray (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date:   04-30-08 19:16

I'd wager Red Stripe will outlast Mavado's career trajectory...

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Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-30-08 19:28

I'd agree with Ray on that bet. As they say, there's 2 types of work that don't hurt so much during recessions. Barbers and people who sell alcohol, since the majority of people always want their haircuts and their booze

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   04-30-08 19:31

Ras James wrote:

> I'd agree with Ray on that bet. As they say, there's 2 types of
> work that don't hurt so much during recessions. Barbers and
> people who sell alcohol, since the majority of people always
> want their haircuts and their booze
>


I've saved a lotta money on haircuts the last 2 + years....so maybe I can use that to justify my occasional drinking! LOL



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Author: papa ray (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date:   05-01-08 08:29

EVERYONE I know in the bar/liquor business in St. Louis tell me they are doing just fine, thank you. My 22 year old son(apple of his dad's eye) is a double-shift working
bartender, and is reputed to make the best Bloody Mary in town. His dad actually tasted the first such concoction(one sip) in more than 30 years(full disclosure: I
never have had the taste for the alcohol).

Still, I'd love to have a dragon stout T-shirt with the dragon logo, and feel it would look STUNNING as I took an afternoon draw...

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Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   05-01-08 16:31

>now all of a sudden pale skinned jahmeek is starting 2mek sense, imagine dat?
>funny how monkey c,monkey do comes in2 play when all of a sudden their is more than 1 voice who stands up to give a hoot in the crowd. . .
>clap the barber!!!

-RASpects+

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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   05-01-08 17:21

Honestly Jah Meek, your posts can hurt the arguement as much as it can help it.

The Choice Is Yours!



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Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   05-01-08 17:50

>thats to much now, u act like im running for public office here.
>

-RASpects+

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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   05-02-08 11:40

Dancehall artistes are planning another counter attack on beer giants Red Stripe in what is shaping up to be an epic battle.
The artistes say they are now prepared to perform for free during at least one major event as long as there are no Red Stripe products being sold or consumed at the venue.
So far, artistes such as Beenie Man, Elephant Man and Voicemail are among those willing to take this stance.
"Dem (Red Stripe) cyaan tek a stand 'gainst we an we nuh tek a stand 'gainst dem," said Beenie Man in an interview from New York yesterday.
"Wi need fi know what wi doing, because dancehall is our . A nuh Red Stripe alone wi a tek di stand against, but even wid di whole 2 o' clock lock-off ting to."

Statement
A statement issued by Red Stripe recently expressed its intention to withdraw sponsorship of live music events, including Reggae Sumfest. It stated: "While our most recent efforts through the Coalition of Corporate Sponsors have met with some measure of success, some performers continue to propagate, through their live performances, violent and anti-social lyrics. Red Stripe will not be party to this, and thus we have taken the very difficult decision of withdrawing sponsorship from live music events. Consequently, Red Stripe will not renew our contract for title sponsorship of Reggae Sumfest and Sting. We will, however, ensure that our brands are made available whenever and wherever our loyal consumers enjoy premium alcohol beverages."
Since this statement was released, however, several artistes such as Mavado, Spice and Mutabaruka have voiced their displeasure with Red Stripe's stance. Having mentioned their disgust during performances and in interviews the artistes now say they are ready to take things to another level.
Beenie Man says he originally wanted to do a free performance at the upcoming Reggae Sumfest show. That plan fell through so he has decided to plan the free show himself.
"Wi need fi keep dis free show fi fight back 'gainst all these people who a fight 'gainst dancehall. Mi did waan do it a Sumfest, but dem done have dem ting line up, suh mi definitely a plan a show an mi only need di artiste dem fi support it. Not support for me, but for di entire Jamaica Beenie Man told The STAR.

Sock show
According to Beenie, "dem (Red Stripe) lef Jamaica an gone a Europe gone sponsor rock show, cause dem have a rock show wey dem a sponsor right now. Suh we as Jamaicans need fi stand firm together an mek dem know wi nuh like wah dem a do."
In the case of Elephant Man, he says he is onboard with the decision and is encouraging the artistes to unite for the cause.
"If di artiste dem a unite an stand up fi sum'n, I'm with them. Suh if di artiste dem sey dem a guh come together an do a free event without Red Stripe being there, I'll do it. If Red Stripe a guh gwaan like dem waan withdraw an hurt di dancehall den we haffi do sum'n bout dat," Elephant Man said.
He said that there must be more to Red Stripe's decision than meets the eye and artistes should not be blamed.
"To me, Red Stripe cyaan sey dat we (artistes) promoting violence, suh dat is why dem nah guh sponsor dancehall show, 'cause ova di years dem a do it suh why stop now? Ninja Man, Cutty Ranks, Super Cat, di whole a dem a did gangsta artiste wey do gangsta song suh we nah do nutt'n different," Ele said.
He continued, "Dem fi come out an sey a sum'n personal an stop put di blame pon di artiste dem. Dem a back Sumfest how long now wid di same artiste dem, suh why now?"
Ninja Man, however, was not too concerned about Red Stripe's decision. "Mi nuh need sponsorship from Red Stripe or nobody," he said.
He, however, recommended, "Dem need fi try sort out wha problem Red Stripe have wid di music fraternity. Dem get enough out a dancehall artiste now dat's why dem can gwaan suh. Every one a dem products a artiste use to promote dem an mek dem big. But it simple, wi get back to the days of the '80s, mek wi leggo di sponsorship an start promote wi own ting again, without all the rules and constraints wey these sponsors come wid," Ninja said.
When THE STAR spoke to Oneil from Voicemail, he had his own theory of how a boycott from them could have an impact on the Red Stripe products.
"We have several weekly dances that are held, so if we decide to come together and boycott their products then wi can put a dent in their sales and send a serious message," he said.
"We can all sit here an beat 'roun di bush, Diageo don't give a ... about violence in Jamaica, the real reason, personally, I think it has a lot to do with the gay-bashing lyrics and Red Stripe don't want to come out and say this is the legitimate reason why we are pulling out."
Despite this stance, however, there is still no sign that the corporate giant is about to retract their statement. When contacted yesterday, Maxine Whittingham, head of Corporate Relations, told The STAR, "We have taken a particular stance and we issued a statement and we stand by that statement."



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Author: Chimino (---.dsl.dytnoh.ameritech.net)
Date:   05-03-08 01:33

Red Stripe tastes like piss anyway.

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Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   05-03-08 01:52

and so does Guinness



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Author: Stamina! (---.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net)
Date:   05-03-08 10:47

I dunno about that chimmy, after a hard day in the sun cutting brush or trimming trees ain't much more refreshing than an ice cold Stripe (try Coors or Bud Light for something that tastes like it came out of a chimmy)...still, with this politrickal correctness game they're playing with the music, I much prefer this label:




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Author: Jahmeek (---.phnx.qwest.net)
Date:   05-04-08 11:42

>Life does come with poor choices. . .


-RASpects+

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Author: RasSmoka (---.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com)
Date:   05-04-08 12:02

cue "sounds of trupets playing and angels singing"!!!!!

~IRIE VIBES EVERYTIME~

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Author: papa ray (---.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com)
Date:   05-04-08 12:38

That's more than 99 bottles of beer, by any measure....

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Author: cb_liveup (---.dyn.adsl.mcn.org)
Date:   05-05-08 22:09

Just returned from first trip to Portland, JA. And if have to say, if you are only going to have one beer native to your country, Red Stripe is a pretty damn good one. It suits the island and the lifestyle to a T.
The pulling of sponsorship will be a major loss to the future of live reggae music scene in Jamaica. I hope they can work something out.
(Beer Lao takes a close second).

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Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   05-06-08 09:44

The show must go on, say Sumfest organisers

Event set for July 13 -19

Tuesday, May 06, 2008
JAMAICA OBSERVER

The organisers of Reggae Sumfest, Summerfest Productions, in their first public statement since the announcement of Red Stripe's withdrawal from the event, say that while Red Stripe's contribution was significant to the staging of the festival and they will miss working with the company, their absence will in no way deter the festival.

According to the release, "Summerfest Productions believe in the importance of Reggae Sumfest as a national event that contributes in a large way to the overall economy and are determined to make Reggae Sumfest 2008 a big success with the help of their current sponsors."

In commenting on the decision of Red Stripe to withdraw its title sponsorship after seven years, Mr Gourzong said: "Red Stripe, in their role as title sponsor, has been integral to the success of the festival over the last seven years, and we wish to express our sincere thanks for that support. Red Stripe has taken a position against what they see as some very negative aspects of the dancehall music, and while we will certainly miss them, we appreciate and accept their decision. Our local performers have been integral to the success of Reggae Sumfest over the years.

They are extremely talented and our music is world acclaimed, we do not need to use indecency or violence as a selling point. Regrettably the inclusion of violent and degrading lyrics in some songs by a few of our artistes is cause for concern as this could hurt the industry and alienate sponsors."

The 16th staging of Reggae Sumfest is set for July 13-19 and will kick off with the beach party at Tropical Beach on Sunday, July 13, featuring top sound systems. On Thursday, July 17, top dancehall performers will energise the full capacity crowd, while Friday and Saturday will continue the tradition of offering the finest reggae singers and bands, alongside top international stars.

Digicel, Ocean Spray and Air Jamaica, the JTB and VP Records have once again signed on as major sponsors, while for the first time, Supreme Ventures has signed on as a silver sponsor, Red Bull has come on board as a gold sponsor and Jamrock Magazine as a platinum sponsor.

Negotiations are under way with several other companies who have expressed interest in supporting the event. Media support is once again very strong with CVM on board as the official television station, Irie FM as the official radio, and the Jamaica Observer as official newspaper. In addition Fame, Hype TV, RE TV, Zip FM, TVJ, Linkz FM, Vybz FM, Megajamz, Buzz Magazine, Jamaican Lifestyle and whaddat.com, have added their support to the event.

The line-up for Reggae Sumfest this year promises to be excellent. While not all contracts have yet been signed, a peek at the wish list for the festival revealed that the local line-up promises to be as strong as ever. A long list of artistes are being targeted which include Beres Hammond, Beenie Man, Buju Banton, Sizzla, Bounty Killer, Elephant Man, Mavado, Busy Signal, Jah Cure, Richie Spice, Macka Diamond, Brick & Lace, Tami Chynn, Erup, Queen I-Frica, Etana, Tarrus Riley, Anthony B, Voice Mail, Vybz Cartel, Demarco, Courtney John. Harry Toddler. No clues were revealed for the international acts, however it was hinted that negotiations were ongoing with some very 'big names'.

So, while there have been some rumblings in the music concert arena, Reggae Sumfest is still a must-go event on the calendar for 2008, and promises to once again surpass the standards set in previous years.

After a seven-year stint as title sponsor, Red Stripe took the decision not to renew their title sponsorship for 2008.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Rhythmwize (---.proxy.aol.com)
Date:   05-06-08 09:50

I see Hype TV is supporting the event.

Does anyone subscribe to Hype TV ? Is it any good and worth the $10 a month Directv charges?

Been thinking about getting it on my next Directv upgrade to the world of HD...yeah yeah, I know Im behind the times, but things are moving so fast I cant catch up.

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Ras James (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   05-06-08 10:00

Personally, if it's the same channell they show in JA, I'd watch it if it were part of the general TV plan, but I wouldn't pay extra. Like most JA video channels, it appears to be based on a loop, playing the same things in the exact same order every few hours. Nice to watch once in awhile to see what's going on, new videos, etc... But would get kind of expensive for videos that 90% of them you can see on youtube. Peace

Dr. Suess (aka Ras James)
Irie Sounds International

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 Re: Red Stripe Drops Sumfest Sponsorship
Author: Original RuffNeck Sol Jah (---.hsd1.ca.comcast.net)
Date:   05-07-08 22:01

Chimino wrote:

> Red Stripe tastes like piss anyway.





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